[afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!

Fri Sep 19 10:30:25 UTC 2014

Hi my good friend Kofi Ansa Akufo, 
I beg  to differ but its quite clear that your knowledge base  about AFRINIC and its PROCESSES is ....
I will kindly advise you to apply for the next AFRINIC fellowship to acquire more insight about AFRINIC  and Visit the AFRINIC Website read carefully about what it does and how it does its job and processes you will greatly appreciate that this noble ORG has systematic detailed approach method and processes for acquiring Address space and usage.The ROLE of an ISP goes what you are addressing here. 

Thank You.
Ata Redeemer
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On Fri, 9/19/14, Sunday Folayan <sfolayan at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [afnog] A typical case of abuse of our resources!!!
 To: "Kofi ANSA AKUFO" <kofi.ansa at gmail.com>
 Cc: "AfriNIC Discuss" <members-discuss at afrinic.net>, "afnog" <afnog at afnog.org>
 Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 11:02 AM

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 On 19/09/2014 10:40, Kofi ANSA AKUFO wrote:
 > On Sep 19, 2014 10:50 AM, "Sunday
 Folayan" <sfolayan at gmail.com>
 > wrote:
 >> 
 > On 19/09/2014 04:26, Daniel Kofi ANSA
 AKUFO wrote:
 >>>> On 18
 September 2014 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
 wrote:
 >>>> 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> On 17 Sep 2014 16:58,
 "Daniel Kofi ANSA AKUFO" 
 >>>>> <kofi.ansa at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> Hello All,
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I was just reviewing
 some IPv4 stats allocated in our
 >>>>>> region and I came
 >>>>> across this disgusting
 scheme where some ORGs have been
 >>>>> assigned huge chunks of
 IPv4 in our service region and
 >>>>> wasting the resources.
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Wasting in what
 terms.......? Specifics please. .....
 >>>>> 
 >>>> How much of the content on
 these sites served using the
 >>>> allocated IPv4 space is
 relevant to the development of our
 >>>> region. Now that is a /12
 allocated and believe me there are
 >>>> many other such huge chunks
 out there. It is a waste because
 >>>> it does not in anyway
 contribute to our regional
 >>>>
 development.
 >>>> 
 >>>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/about-us/origins
 >>>> 
 >>>> Could you argue FOR how such
 content encourages Internet 
 >>>> development in Africa as
 specified in the above link which
 >>>> spells out the basis for the
 establishment of our RIR?
 >>>>

 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I don't have an
 issue where IPs are used but my concern
 >>>>>> is when huge
 >>>>> resources in the order of
 /12 are issued to virtual ORGs
 >>>>> and they tend to abuse it
 for spamming and other
 >>>>>
 activities. A typical example is the /16 block which was
 >>>>> issued as part of /12 to
 an ORG last year.
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> Any empirical evidence
 that this guys are using the space
 >>>>> for SPAM....in any
 case.....?
 >>>>> 
 >>>> First of all spamming and
 abuse issues was what triggered
 >>>> the discovery of these
 allocated resources.
 >>>> 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> http://bgp.he.net/net/154.87.0.0/16#_dns
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> I know for sure some
 AFRINIC hostmasters did their best
 >>>>>> to prevent this
 >>>>> but then their efforts are
 over ridden by so called
 >>>>> management ...
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>> The issue gets even
 sour when well known service
 >>>>>> providers through
 their
 >>>>> officials assist
 these so called ORGs to perpetrate these
 >>>>> abuse.
 >>>>> 
 >>>>> ISP business is not to
 police downstream customers but to
 >>>>> offer then
 transit.......
 >>>>> 
 >>>> This is not about policing
 downstream customers its about 
 >>>> maintaining due diligence by
 promoting activities and
 >>>>
 investments that will develop the service region.
 >>>> 
 >>>> Could you tell the community
 how the activities of these
 >>>>
 ORGs allocated with such huge resources help the
 development
 >>>> of the
 region?
 >>>> 
 >>>> Our region has been allocated
 roughly *5  x /8 IPv4 blocks*.
 >>>> */12 IPv4* is just out there
 not been used efficiently with
 >>>> respect to activities that
 contribute to regional development
 >>>> and corporation. I could list
 at *least 8 more (none less
 >>>>
 than /17 IPv4)* out there currently used in such
 activities.
 >>>> Yet we are
 reluctant to pass policies that will enable our
 >>>> tertiary institutions to
 acquire more IP space for R&D.
 >>>> 
 >>>> Unfortunately AFRINIC just
 keeps providing number stats of 
 >>>> allocated resources in the sub
 region which does not
 >>>>
 correlate with efficient usage of the resources with
 respect
 >>>> to impact on the
 region's development.
 >>>>

 >>>> My question to the
 community is how do we measure or track
 >>>> progress in our region based
 on these number allocation
 >>>>
 stats?
 >>>> 
 >>>> Is there a need to restructure
 and recompose our RIR to
 >>>>
 reflect the challenges specific to our region to impact
 >>>> development in the region?
 >>>> 
 >>>> Clearly the many PASSIVE
 policies we have now are not
 >>>> working. There needs to be a
 more vibrant follow up process
 >>>> after resources by the
 community at large.
 >>>> 
 >>>> K
 > 
 > 
 > Amigo,
 > 
 > When I last checked
 the policy space, there was nothing that
 > showed you lighting a candle, instead of
 this persistent cursing of
 > the
 darkness.
 > 
 >> :)
 I wouldn't call it cursing of the darkness, but
 rather
 >> stimulating discussion to
 explore our policy processes and
 >>
 policies implemented to steer away from "lighting
 candles" that
 >> will be blown
 out quickly.
 > 

 It would be blown away, if such candles are lit
 on a windy day. Of
 course, no one will
 notice if it is sunny as well.

 Would be great if people see you as stimulating
 discussions, and not
 belly-aching about the
 organization, its processes and the integrity
 of the management and staff. What looks visible
 here, is the prophet
 and not the message.
 Perhaps you need to change your tactics and
 method for a reasonable impact. Discretion is
 the greater part of valour.

 Sunday.
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