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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What I can say publicly is that my coauthors of the IETF document (D-Link and NEC) support it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>We also had this panel in APNIC and Zyxel said will do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>https://blog.apnic.net/2017/11/09/ce-vendors-share-thoughts-ipv6-support/<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There are a few others, but I don’t think I can name them until they announce it, as in some cases only do for the firmware provided to ISPs not the retail firmware.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regarding Mikrotik, implementing CLAT is a matter of few minutes. The code is publicly available, there are even several choices. They just don’t react to IPv6 transition. I’ve tried hard for several years, they never even responded emails, forum, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Today you can by Chinese’s products far superior than Mikrotik for half the price, and they already have by default OpenWRT. For example, 5 Gig ports + USB + 2 WiFi radios, less than 20 USD, for some volume. No volume, just go to Aliexpress and you get it for about 25-30 USD, depending on chipsets, memory, etc. There are some with built-in GPON and even VoIP RJ11.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In the backbone, you don’t need the CLAT support, so that’s not a problem to keep using Mikrotik. Of course, NAT64 support will be very nice.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>De: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu><br><b>Fecha: </b>lunes, 3 de diciembre de 2018, 11:12<br><b>Para: </b>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, Diarmuid O Briain <diarmuid@obriain.com>, UIXP Techies <techies@uixp.co.ug>, <afnog@afnog.org><br><b>Asunto: </b>Re: [afnog] IPv6 transition mechanism used by ISP<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt'>On 3/Dec/18 12:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By the way.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Some CPE vendors already support it, but not in the retail models. This was explained in my presentation this week “Raiders of the lost Ark” “in search for the lost CPE”.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-29/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-Jordi-Palet.pdf">https://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-29/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-Jordi-Palet.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>I don't see a list of known vendors that support it today (retail), which likely means none.<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Not sure when video will be available …</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The big offender is Mikrotik, they don't support any transition mechanism except 6in4 and this is now useless once you exhaust IPv4 addresses. They are so negligent that they even confuse people using “6to4” to say “6in4”, and those are 2 different transition mechanisms. Not sure how much is being used in residential users in Africa … they are the big offender (I think also Ubiquity). Just don’t by them, or reflash them with OpenWRT and make sure to tell the vendor about it. Only market pressure will make them react.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><br>Well then, I probably spoke too soon :-).<br><br>Mikrotik is widely used in Africa, both in the backbone and at home.<br><br>I know what you mean with the whole 6-to-4 instead of 6-in4- debacle. Took me a minute to figure out while I was setting my tunnel up.<br><br>It's a shame, really, since they work hard to ship updates and bug fixes out for their gear. It just seems like they don't have enough demand to do more than just what they want, and for the price folk pay, most are happy with what they get anyway.<br><br>Mark.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><br>**********************************************<br>
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