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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/Dec/18 12:00, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">By the way.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">Some CPE vendors already support it, but not in
            the retail models. This was explained in my presentation
            this week “Raiders of the lost Ark” “in search for the lost
            CPE”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-US"><a
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              moz-do-not-send="true">https://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-29/components/com_afmeeting/speakers/3283/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-Jordi-Palet.pdf</a></span></p>
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    I don't see a list of known vendors that support it today (retail),
    which likely means none.<br>
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            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">Not sure when video will be available …<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
            lang="EN-US">The big offender is Mikrotik, they don't
            support any transition mechanism except 6in4 and this is now
            useless once you exhaust IPv4 addresses. They are so
            negligent that they even confuse people using “6to4” to say
            “6in4”, and those are 2 different transition mechanisms. Not
            sure how much is being used in residential users in Africa …
            they are the big offender (I think also Ubiquity). Just
            don’t by them, or reflash them with OpenWRT and make sure to
            tell the vendor about it. Only market pressure will make
            them react.</span></p>
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    Well then, I probably spoke too soon :-).<br>
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    Mikrotik is widely used in Africa, both in the backbone and at home.<br>
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    I know what you mean with the whole 6-to-4 instead of 6-in4-
    debacle. Took me a minute to figure out while I was setting my
    tunnel up.<br>
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    It's a shame, really, since they work hard to ship updates and bug
    fixes out for their gear. It just seems like they don't have enough
    demand to do more than just what they want, and for the price folk
    pay, most are happy with what they get anyway.<br>
    <br>
    Mark.<br>
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