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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>well...... RENs may evolve organically in africa
but need to interconnect. nii</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ceo@tenet.ac.za href="mailto:ceo@tenet.ac.za">Duncan Martin</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=barry@aau.org
href="mailto:barry@aau.org">Boubakar Barry</A> ; <A title=drriley@umd.edu
href="mailto:drriley@umd.edu">Don Riley</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=afren@afnog.org
href="mailto:afren@afnog.org">afren@afnog.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:41
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [afren] Fwd:
Internet2-National LambdaRail Merger:DiscussionsTerminated (fwd)</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Hi Boubakar, Don and Afren
List Readers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm sad to read of the contining failure,
despite sustained efforts by good and capable people, of the attempt to merge
Internet2 and NLR. To my mind, the lesson for REN initiatives
and for REN champions in Africa is that it is incomparably more
difficult to merge two established RENs, even when their missions and
operations overlap substantially, than it is to create a new REN.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards to All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Duncan Martin</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> afren-bounces@afnog.org on
behalf of Boubakar Barry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sun 2007/11/04 08:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Don Riley<BR><B>Cc:</B> afren@afnog.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [afren] Fwd:
Internet2-National LambdaRail Merger: DiscussionsTerminated
(fwd)<BR></FONT><BR></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Don,</DIV>
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<DIV>These issues are of particular interest for emerging RENs. But I
understand from Lucy's posting that the actual proposed agreement isn't
publicly available.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards</DIV>
<DIV>Boubakar<BR><BR> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 11/4/07, <B class=gmail_sendername>Don
Riley</B> <<A href="mailto:drriley@umd.edu">drriley@umd.edu</A>>
wrote:</SPAN>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Barry,<BR>Since
the core issues were primarily more about different<BR>ownership/membership
and governance models, coupled with different <BR>service models, other than
satisfying curiosity, I don't think you'd<BR>find the actual rejected
Definitive Agreement terribly informative.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Don
Riley<BR><BR>Lucy Lynch wrote:<BR>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, Boubakar Barry
wrote: <BR>><BR>>> Anyone who has a copy of the proposed agreement
that was rejected<BR>>> as-is by<BR>>>
NLR?<BR>>><BR>>> Boubakar<BR>><BR>> The actual contract
document is not publicly available but the final <BR>> report out of the
planning team is:<BR>><BR>> <A
href="http://www.internet2-nlr.org/npt/NPT_final_report.pdf">www.internet2-nlr.org/npt/NPT_final_report.pdf</A><BR>><BR>>
- lucy<BR>><BR>>><BR>>> On 11/4/07, Randy Bush <<A
href="mailto:randy@psg.com">randy@psg.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>>><BR>>>> this was a forgone
conflusion. nlr has no motivation to merge. it
ate<BR>>>> i2's lunch already. <BR>>>><BR>>>>
randy<BR>>>><BR>>><BR>>
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